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"Loyalties Lead To Betrayal"

Loyalty? Yeah. That's me! Rainbow Dash! The one and only! Best flyer around and the most loyal pony you can find! What? AJ says she's the most dependable of ponies? Well! I'll just have to show her how it's done! I have a reputation to keep after all.   Who do you THINK would be Loyalty besides yours truly?  

Fluttershy with her animals? Sorry, she's sweet and everything and you can't find a nicer pony but she folds like a deck of cards if you push her just right.

Pinkie Pie? Sure she's -fun- you can give her that. But . . . I kinda know from personal experience that she kinda can jump to the wrong conclusions about her friends.

Rarity? No. Sorry. No.

Twilight Sparkle? Okay, I guess she is kinda lovingly devoted to the Princess the way a filly is to her mother. But like any filly and her mama she's willing to bend what her 'mother' wants if Twilight thinks she knows best.

Back to AJ huh? Look. I'll admit she's hard working: it nearly killed her once (AND ME!). And she's always stuck by her family. . . . look I'm not any good at this philosophical stuff okay?!  I just know the Element of Loyalty chose me! And I'm pretty sure these magical whatcha-ma-call-its don't make those kinds of mistakes! Do they? No they don't!

I rejected those Shadow Bolts fakes' 'get famous quick' scheme.  

So I went nuts over those Gala tickets, we all did!

So AJ carried Fluttershy up the mountain instead of me, doesn't prove a thing.

I gave Applebloom advice on how to find her cutie mark. And I'm always willing to order around, er, help Scootaloo find hers.

I got infected by Poison Joke for my buddies following what we all thought was a dangerous witch!

So I broke nearly every rule in the book during the Running of the Leaves Race, so did AJ!

When Rarity was falling to her death, -after- she had ruined my routine and, er, disturbed my confidence just slightly, and had just accidentally KO'ed my idols, I pulled off a stunt that was thought to be impossible just to save her!

And I helped Fluttershy with her image when she was a model . . . how was I supposed to know she hated it?

. . . So I took the Buffalo's point of view that one time, it wasn't like I tried to FIGHT MY FRIENDS when that five minute war broke out!  

And you KNOW I didn't give up and walk away from Pinkie Pie when she was . . . having issues . . . even when I had to drag her to her own birthday party kicking and screaming . . .

And I got my cutie mark to begin with for Fluttershy . . . okay . . . so I kinda got it thinking about how much I loved to fly and loved winning more . . . so I didn't even bother to think about checking on her or asking her what happened after.  Look you think ponies stay the same their whole lives-?!

The point is that the Element of Loyalty chose me, and I'm doing my hardest to show I'm worthy of it.

Of course there was that one time . . . I had to choose loyalties. I had to chose between the friend I -thought- I knew and had known for a long time, and the new friends I had made and who had exposed their souls to me more or less.

I'm fairly sure I made the right choice. Considering what happened with the friends I've chosen, and finding out what the friend I thought I knew did.

Weather's gone crazy. A raincloud did NOT just make a foal out of me. Summon by the Princess. Time to save the world again.

Elements of Harmony stolen.

A stupid windowpane has the gall to take my declaration that I'll always be loyal to Princess Celestia like it was challenge! I'm the one who takes up challenges!

Maze? Easy-peasy. MY WINGS! Fluttershy's wings! My wings! Rarity and Twilight's horns. My wings!

Into the maze. Separated. No other choice. Make it to the center.

I see my cutie mark floating around . . . my Element? Has to be!

Discord. Jerk is acting like he's on vacation!

'A weighty choice is yours to make,
The right selection or a big mistake.
If the wrong choice you choose to pursue,
The foundations of home will crumble without you?'

AGH! I HATE RIDDLES! Give me action any time of day! Wings or no I'll make you eat those words and those stupid horns!

Then he shuts me up.

And I feel like something inside me breaks in two.

Less than a minute later I'm flying out of the maze straight towards home and not my house above Ponyville. I'm going where I was born and where every member of my family and nearly every last one of my classmates are. I hear AJ call out to the others I'm abandoning them even if she thinks I can't. I hear the maze fall apart behind me.

I know we're gonna save the world no matter what. Just because I've betrayed myself and you guys doesn't mean I've lost my confidence. I know we're gonna beat Discord. I know everything will be back to normal before we know it and none of us will speak of this again just like Pinkie Pie's little 'episode.'

Makes me wish I hadn't changed one bit since we all met. Back then, I might have let Cloudsdale fall apart, it was just 'some place I came from' I didn't think of it as still home. Then I won the Yearly Best Young Flyers Competition. Then I finally earned the respect of my classmates and my heroes. Finally it was a place I didn't dread returning to.

I know you Twilight, if not you then Fluttershy or Pinkie Pie. You'll say Discord tricked me. That he enchanted me. Something, anything as long as it's not my fault. Because you don't want to believe I'd ever do this.  I'll let you think that. I'll tell myself that too. Then maybe the broken pieces inside me will stop stabbing.

Makes me glad I'm not the Element of Honesty. And that you guys are friends that a backstabber like me isn't worthy of having are so dang trusting!

After all, I'm the Element of Loyalty, there's no way I'd EVER do this -willingly!- That's what I'm counting on at least.

You'll fix me Twilight, you'll make these feelings go away: You'll use some new magic spell or maybe the Elements, or maybe you'll tell me some point of loyalty I've been missing. I don't know how but I know it'll happen. We always come out on top even when it seems impossible.

I'll fight you every inch of the way, you'll have to drag me kicking and screaming back into the light from this dark place. Because that's what needs to happen. But you'll catch me, you'll subdue me, you'll cure me. And it'll be like I never did anything wrong.

Heck. Maybe I won't remember a dang thing about this whole mess when it's over and I'm 'fixed.' Or maybe I'll remember it the way I want to remember: 'Not my own choice.' I can hope.

But you'll 'cure me,' I'll be well again, and Discord will be just a bad memory we'll never talk about.

I'm sorry for every pony in Ponyville I just betrayed, I'm sorry Princess, I've betrayed you too.

But I couldn't betray my home guys, not after it finally means something to me again.

I guess this is what happens when you're loyal to more than one thing, you end up having to betray one for the other.  What was it that musty old teacher said in that class I mostly slept through? 'A pony can not serve two masters.'

Before I made a choice between you guys and Gilda, and now I've made a choice between Cloudsdale and you.

Guys, for what it's worth, I'm sorry.

-Traitor Dash
NOW WITH AUDIO DRAMATIC ADAPTION AND ORIGINAL MUSIC! [link]

Part of the Discord Pony Series!

Personal Pros Of Poor Ponies Possessing Possible Post-traumatic Stress Disorder Brought On By Discord The Deity of Chaos' Mind Games Forcing Them To See the Flip Side Of Their Element Or Appealing To Their Worse Nature Or Outright Cheating With One. (Tell me the truth is this annoying or interesting?)

And now we've come to the fifth. Rainbow Dash. As loyal as pony could be. Her loyalties are impossible to break! But fun science fact! Nothing is unbreakable when struck against itself.

Other Parts In Chronological Order:

LiarJack: [link]

Anger Pie: [link]

Rarigreed: [link]

FlutterCruel: [link]

Traitor Dash (here)

The Pathetic And Irrelevant Trixie: [link]

Twilight Tragedy: [link]

Epilogue: [link]

Link to the Gallery of the Discord Ponies POV Series, dealing with their descent into darkness by Discord's games and epilogue. [link]


And for those of you interest! Here is the very much and very direct sequel to this story! The truth of Rainbow Dash's betrayal, and her dealing with the consequences in her own way. [link]

And here is a link to the sequel of this series: the Reharmonized/Recovery/Healing Ponies POV series! Dealing with after the defeat of Discord and the mane six, along with all people of Ponyville dealing with the emotional stress in their own way of what they did while under Discord's control. Here's a hint, IT ISN'T EASY TO JUST PUT YOUR HOOVES FORWARD! And some want to trot backwards back into the night where the pain can't find them. [link]

MLP FiM Copyright HASBRO

AND NOW WE HAVE OUR TV TROPES PAGE! YAY! [link]

EDIT 2012 01 04:
Added link to audio adaption.

Fanfic's art done with permission by Firedrake368
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Eine psychologische Auseinandersetzung mit dem ersten Zweiteiler der zweiten Staffel von My Little Pony: Freundschaft ist Magie, erzählt aus der Sicht der sechs Heldinnen der Geschichte:
Equestria steht am Rande einer Katastrophe. Ein Feind, so alt wie das Land selbst, hat sich aus seinem Jahrtausende-langen Schlaf befreit, und hat die königliche Hauptstadt und Ponyville ins Visier genommen.
Discord, seines Zeichens Gott des Chaos, will den Thron wiedererringen, von dem ihn Celestia und Luna einst gestürzt hatten. Und dieser Tyrann bedient sich zum diesen Zweck seiner zerstörerischsten Waffe; und das sind Equestrias Ponys selber. Als Herr über Verstand und Wahrnehmung, weiß er sich jeden noch so starken Willen untertan zu machen.
Nun liegt es an den sechs Elementen der Harmonie, Discord Paroli zu bieten, bevor das Land unter ihm im Chaos versinkt.
Doch dann kriegen auch sie die volle Breitseite von Discords Macht zu spüren. Eine nach der anderen stellt fest, dass Discord in seinen Begründungen doch sehr 'überzeugend' sein kann....
Dies sind ihre Geschichten.


Interessenskonflikt
Was für eine Qual der Wahl kann einen loyalen Pegasus wie Rainbow Dash dazu bringen, das zu verraten, was ihr am meisten bedeutet? [link]
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EndermanBoss Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2015
Translation mix for this chapter here.

"Loyalty to the cause of treason"

Loyalty? Oops. Self! Rainbow! If you only the best and most reliable pony around the flyer! What is going on? AJ says that the most reliable pony? Well! Just to show how to do it? I have a reputation to keep following. In your opinion, it really is in addition to commitment?

His animals Fluttershy? Sorry, it's sweet and everything, and you can not find a nice pony, but if you push the right, folds like a deck of cards.

Pinkie Pie? I'm sure he can give it -fun-. But. . . It is going to be a little bit of his friends I know from personal experience from the wrong conclusions.

Rarely? I'm sorry. Posts

Twilight Sparkle? Well, I'm beginning to the end of love from his mother, Princess dedicated to think about it this way. But no filly and willing to bend to his mother, like her mother, "Twilight thinks he knows best.

AJ back, huh? See. I admit it's a tough job: it is almost time for murder (and me!). And he always stuck to his family. . . . I'm no good at this stuff is not good philosophical, see?! I chose to obey me know the items! Whatcha call it the magic of his mistakes, and I'm sure you will not get the kind of ING! Are there any? No, no!

I "fast", also known as Shadow Bolt refused counterfeiting scheme.

So I think we all went nuts Gala tickets

So instead of AJ Fluttershy mountain to me, nothing has been proven.

Applebloom I gave tips on how to find a box score. And I always, ER, help around the'm ready to help find her Scootaloo.

I thought all from a dangerous witch, Poison infected joke with my friends!

AJ, such as leaves almost every rule in the book, so I broke Race scrolling!

Rare, and ruined my routine, ER, just a little shaken my faith, and accidentally made my idols KO'ed -after- just falling to her death, I considered the rally, which, when pulled off the impossible, that it is!

Fluttershy when he helped the image of a model. . . How was I to know that I hated?

. . . Buffalo, so I'm not trying to fight with my friends once war broke out within five minutes, that's the idea!

You know, when I give up and walk away from Pinkie Pie, he does not. . . There are problems. . . When I drag a kicking and screaming for his birthday. . .

Fluttershy I started my box score. . . OK. . . I think about how he loved to fly and we love to win. . . So we also think about the check, she did not bother to ask her what happened next. Pony lives- you will see the same?!

The idea is to chose me to be an element of loyalty, and to show that I am not worthy to do my hardest.

Of course, it's like a time. . . I have to choose. I had to choose between a friend and I have known for a long time -thought-, and I more or less for me to make new friends and have exposed their souls.

I'm pretty sure I made the right choice. I know a friend from idea what to think of it, I was elected by friends.

Crazy weather. Raincloud I was the only child. Call Princess. Time to save the world again.

Elements of Harmony stolen.

I will always be loyal to Princess Celestia stupid Window has the gall to my statement, it is a challenge! I'm the one who takes the challenge!

Maze? Easy Peasy. My wings! Fluttershy Wings! My wings! Twilight rare and horns. My wings!

In the maze. Assigned. The other options. Center.

Note that I see floating around the box. . . My item? You should be!

Dissent. Jerk is a holiday!

"The choice is yours to do with weight,
The correct choice and is a big mistake.
If you choose to follow a wrong choice,
Without weakening the foundations of the house? "

Reliable, hate riddles! Give me action at any time of the day! Crazy horns or wings, and does not eat those words!

Then I stopped.

I feel like breaking something inside me.

Within a minute, I'm on top of Ponyville was flying home from my house and embroidery in the right direction. I was born, and where the members of my family, and my colleagues, I am almost every end. I think he thought I was not, appeal to others to understand their abandonment of the AJ. I heard behind me unravel the maze.

No matter what we do, know that will save the world. I was betrayed, and not just because I do not understand, I have lost my faith. I know we can beat controversial. Before you know it, I know that everything is back to normal, and none of us as a little part, Pinkie Pie, who will talk about this again. "

I think we met all because I want to have not changed a bit. Cloudsdale then I fall apart, it's just that I do not think the house is still "a place", he said. Then I have the best young Flyers won the competition every year. Then I finally gets the respect of my colleagues and my heroes. Finally, it is in place, I do not dread coming back.

If I were you, then Pinkie Pie Fluttershy or, you know Twilight. You tricked me discord. I am attractive. Something, something, because it's not my fault. I never wanted to do because I do not want to believe it. I'll let you think about it. I understand. Where can tear me to pass.

It is not an element of I'm honest, I'm happy. Dong admit that it is not worthy of me as a backstabber and you friends, because

After all, I pledge element, there is no way I would ever -willingly this - this is what I hope anyway.

This feeling will not go away, my Twilight fix: the elements of a new spell or use them, or you do not dedication, I will at some point, I can tell. I do not know how, but I know it will happen. Even when we are not always possible, come out on top.

You have to fight every inch of the way, you have to drag me kicking and screaming into the light will return to this dark place. What must be done. But you're my cure me, catch me in control. It will be like if I did something wrong.

What the heck. Probably more than you, do not be in this mess, and I remember a dang thing "fixed". Do you remember how I remember that "by their own choice." I hope so.

But do not talk about you, "I will be well again, heal me, and break the memory is bad.

Sorry, Ponyville Pony all just a fraud, I'm sorry, Princess, I deceive you.

But I do not mean something to me again after the end, can not betray my main guys.

When more than one thing I want this job, you need to get another betrayal is what I think. What's that old professor mold basically slept through the class? "Pony can not serve two masters."

Gilda taking you guys, and now we have a choice, and before you Cloudsdale.

Guys, it's worth, I'm sorry.

-Traitor Dash

Will take language suggestions.
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BlackSunEclipsed Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
This is an amazing piece. But... well, you partially get into it, but in my opinion, Discord never made a traitor of Dash. He divided her loyalties and broke his own rules. Sure he's a villain, but the way that 'betrayal' worked was a little... half-assed. It's not a betrayal so much as her choosing to save an entire CITY and not calling his bluff. It's just one part of the show that gives me a little tick... Every. Single. Time. Divided loyalties and betrayal are two very different things. Now, that's my little tirade against the episode.

As for the piece, I think it is a wonderful look into her mind, and was well thought out, and the voice was spot on. You' comment on her loyalties divided is wonderful, but see above tirade for my thoughts on how the episode did it. You've taken a look much deeper than most would think to, and for that you receive my respect. Keep writing and improving. Always, because if this is where you are now? Who knows what it will look like in a year. :D
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2014
Given I wrote this right when return of harmony aired, feel free to read the rest of the fanfic, that I've been writing and posting ever since return of harmony aired. Yeah.
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BlackSunEclipsed Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Alright. Found it by chance and read it through. When I get some actual time, I will. Probably in the next few days hopefully. I plan on trying make a dent in my 'Read it later' list as well over the Holiday season, and this is near the top based on quality. :D
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Clockwork-Falcon Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Woah... This is really cool! I love traitor!dash and you pulled it off very nicely indeed.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
Thanks! Did you check out the audio adaption of this  www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHbNSW… ?
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Clockwork-Falcon Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I did! It was great ;D
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Persona22 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
Just found this picture and reminded me of this story. ruhje.deviantart.com/art/Not-s…
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014
I can see why.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2014
I agree.
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Serefin99 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
OBJECTION! I think you'll find that there are a variety of materials that are just as resilient when struck by themselves! And yes, I am legitimately arguing against that point instead of commenting about RD's train of thought. There's not enough words to express how angry I am with her for that.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
"OBJECTION! I think you'll find that there are a variety of materials that are just as resilient when struck by themselves! And yes, I am legitimately arguing against that point instead of commenting about RD's train of thought."

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure that it's an old adage.

"There's not enough words to express how angry I am with her for that."

For figuring the good guys will win? Or something else?
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Serefin99 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2013
First part: that was just me being weird. I enjoy saying things in response to people that make me seem like I didn't understand what they were actually saying.

Second part: maybe angry wasn't the right word for it. More like, disappointed.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2013
Check out the latest episode of the audio adaption for this finally being addressed. (And her reharmonization.)
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ThePonyMistSwirl Featured By Owner May 21, 2013  Student General Artist
Awesome!
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner May 21, 2013
Have you listened to the audio adaption yet?
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ThePonyMistSwirl Featured By Owner May 21, 2013  Student General Artist
No, where is it?
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner May 21, 2013
Top of the story description. [link]
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ThePonyMistSwirl Featured By Owner May 22, 2013  Student General Artist
Oh, okay!
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner May 22, 2013
How was it? Did you watch the others? Do you have a youtube account? You know they're always looking for help. I hope I'm not coming on too strongly.
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ThePonyMistSwirl Featured By Owner May 23, 2013  Student General Artist
OMG IT WAS AWESOME XDDDDD I loved them, especially the rainbow dash one. And yeah, I have a youtube account.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner May 23, 2013
Be sure to leave comments then. And if you think you can help in any way, be sure to offer it.
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AnimeRaves10 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
This is frickin' good!
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
Thank you. Hope you enjoy the rest of the discorded AND reharmonized series.
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AnimeRaves10 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I do too!
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KurseofKings Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2012
Going buy the Epilogue timeline, why does Discord enjoy tormenting Trator Dash in particular so much? Is it because of her reactions?
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2012
Because she's turned out so well.
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Dianacat777 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012
Oh wow, this one was amazing. Unlike the others, who've clearly been Discorded, Dash's is... lucid. Herself. Discord didn't need to change her; just pit two loyalties against each other. And that, coupled with the way you wrote the ending of it, was just gorgeous.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012
Thanks.

The fact RD WAS lucid, but WAS tainted by Discord and it was addling her thinking, plays into the story later.
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ImRaidAccount Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2012
Damn you and your awesome story telling.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2012
Thanks! :-) YOu really mean it's awesome?
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ImRaidAccount Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012
yes yes I do
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012
:-)
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jaydragon247 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2012
i watched the video on youtube, it was dramatic
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2012
And there's plenty more where that came from. And the main story will be getting an adaption soon too!
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jaydragon247 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2012
what do you mean (answer while i follow you, or watch by devianart name and not by youtube)
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2012
I mean the main Pony POV Series is getting an adaption as well. It's already in the works!
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jaydragon247 Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2012
maybe new episodes will help you out
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Guilrel Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012
Well, that was um, confusing. It was like two sides are warring against each other that I couldn't figure out what was going on anymore. But I guess I have to say that this was written after the second part was done, since she was talking about being cured and stuff. It was almost as if these were literally Rainbow Dash's final thoughts before she's made to believe that tiny cloud was actually Cloudsdale. I guess that's all I had to say in this part, and it was alright part.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
"Well, that was um, confusing. It was like two sides are warring against each other that I couldn't figure out what was going on anymore."

?????? Huh? What do you mean? Explain.

"But I guess I have to say that this was written after the second part was done, since she was talking about being cured and stuff. "

Nope.

ALL OF the Discorded Pony Short stories were written before the second part aired! They HAD to be!

Otherwise they'd have no impact!

"It was almost as if these were literally Rainbow Dash's final thoughts before she's made to believe that tiny cloud was actually Cloudsdale. I guess that's all I had to say in this part, and it was alright part."

How could it be improved?

Also, if you read Rainbow Dash Recovery Story . . . you'll learn in this canon it's a lot, lot worse than that.
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Guilrel Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2012
?????? Huh? What do you mean? Explain.

I think that may have to do with me being tired at the time. I'll have to re-read it again tomorrow or sometime later, so I can explain this better.

Nope.

ALL OF the Discorded Pony Short stories were written before the second part aired! They HAD to be!

Otherwise they'd have no impact!


Oh yeah I forgot about that. I remember that I was surprised that your stories showed up in TV Tropes for the first time. ^^;

How could it be improved?

Also, if you read Rainbow Dash Recovery Story . . . you'll learn in this canon it's a lot, lot worse than that.


Darn it because I'm tired from sleeping for about 1 hour and 30 minutes to get ready for the test I had today, I don't think I'm in the best condition to give out some improvements. :sleepy: But I could have sworn I have a couple of ideas for improvement last time. :confused:

Maybe I should read that first and compare this story to the other one that might help me out better. :hmm:
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pumpkin-tlof19 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2012
Just saw the new Audio Adaptation. The actress starts out a little bit off, but I was enthralled by the time she finished...In particular, she got one of my favorite lines pretty much spot on: "Then he shuts me up. And it feels like something in me breaks in two." Amazing job!
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2012
Be sure to tell the Audio Adaption crew that!
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pumpkin-tlof19 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2012
Will do! ...as soon as I can find them again. *sweat drop*
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pumpkin-tlof19 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2011
First Point: I've got to say, the only third option I could really see would be to straight-up attack Discord and hope to buy everyone time. Yeah the game would end, yeah her home might be destroyed, but by attacking Discord she gets his attention so the only thing he wants to do is destroy her, blind rage style. Somehow, I still can't see that ending well, and that may mean that, since both bad outcomes occured, she's still disloyal somehow...though at that point it's just insult to injury, since she's probably dead.
Second Point: Have I mentioned that you're good at this? Because you're good at this. On the other hand, you brought philosophy into the whole thing, and I've seen a few similar experiments...this is called the God's Choice: You either "let" 40 people die, or you affect the outcome and effectively kill 5. The problem is, once you're given the choice, what you choose reflects who you are. Before I read this, I just figured she was tricked same as Rarity, but afterwords...well...let's just say that not only do I agree with the choice she made, but I could not have respected her if she chose differently, and anyone who disagreed with her choice ought to be put in the same position. This isn't a betrayal of her friends; it's being loyal to who she is...and since who she is IS loyalty, I have to wonder if she deserved the full greyscale she got.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2011
"First Point: I've got to say, the only third option I could really see would be to straight-up attack Discord and hope to buy everyone time. Yeah the game would end, yeah her home might be destroyed, but by attacking Discord she gets his attention so the only thing he wants to do is destroy her, blind rage style. Somehow, I still can't see that ending well, and that may mean that, since both bad outcomes occured, she's still disloyal somehow...though at that point it's just insult to injury, since she's probably dead."

Attacking Discord directly is about the only thing she could have done to knock over the chess board. Though I doubt she could have actually injured him enough TO get him angry. The only pony to do that was Mimic . . . she didn't live long afterwards.

"Second Point: Have I mentioned that you're good at this? Because you're good at this. On the other hand, you brought philosophy into the whole thing, and I've seen a few similar experiments...this is called the God's Choice: You either "let" 40 people die, or you affect the outcome and effectively kill 5. The problem is, once you're given the choice, what you choose reflects who you are. Before I read this, I just figured she was tricked same as Rarity, but afterwords...well...let's just say that not only do I agree with the choice she made, but I could not have respected her if she chose differently, and anyone who disagreed with her choice ought to be put in the same position."

A debate for the ages.

"This isn't a betrayal of her friends; it's being loyal to who she is...and since who she is IS loyalty, I have to wonder if she deserved the full greyscale she got."

Read her reharmonization story for hints of that. She made one very big mistake. She trusted Discord. Who is only slightly MORE trust worthy than The Joker!

And much later in the series her TRUE HEALING chapter REALLY shows how much this entire ordeal screwed her in the head!
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pumpkin-tlof19 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2011
Regards: Attacking Discord
Mimic injured him by kicking his face a bunch of times at 1000x speed of sound. Comparatively, Rainbow Dash is able to, from a dive, move fast enough to break the light spectrum...which means she could probably hit Discord at the same speed. And Mimic didn't live long afterwards because Discord slammed her into the ground really fast after turning her bones to glass and lacerating her with his broken tooth. What makes you think he would react to the same scenario the exact same way?
Regards: Trusting Discord
The thing about evil, omnipotent beings is that, no matter how twisted and chaotic, they follow some kind of rules. Even if you can't understand the rules they follow, you know that they will follow those rules. Discord will not react to the same situation in exactly the same way twice in a row, except when he has established a pattern of not reacting to the same situation in exactly the same way twice in a row. If that makes any sense. Similarly, all such beings are bound by their word (think the evil genie: He will grant your wish, but he will twist it in a fashion that it inevitably backfires on you.
What does this have to do with Rainbow Dash? You state that trusting Discord was a mistake, and then state that Discord is only slightly more trustworthy than the Joker...who is, while deranged, clever, and intimidating, basically mortal. The reason we can't trust the Joker is because he is a regular shmuck, rather than a deific being. SO: to conclude, the mistake wasn't TRUSTING Discord, as much as it was not taking the time to analyze what he said in enough detail to see the trap he had put down...which is a mistake she would naturally make, being impulsive and less than fond of riddles. ...and I've fallen into a rant again. I need to stop doing that.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2011
I think I'll just bow out of this one. And let the story evolve the way it will.
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00blazzer Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2011
"you'll have to drag me kicking and screaming back into the light from this dark place. Because that's what needs to happen".
lol this one is epic. Her thoughts are still so lucid. Near the end, those epic quotes started reminding me of "Batman: The Dark Knight".
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2011
Really? Where Bats has to take the fall for Harvey's murders so people don't lose faith?

I suppose. Though RD is more selfish here, as she's terrified of being rejected by her friends since she thinks she made her choice with a clear head or couldn't think of a third option IN SPITE of being tainted by Discord at the time.
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